“Insurance Policy” on Trump Revealed in Transcripts: Want to See?

by Daveda Gruber:

On Tuesday House Judiciary Committee Republicans released hundreds of pages of transcripts from last year’s closed-door interview with ex-FBI attorney Lisa Page.

The long and drawn out Russian meddling probe  ultimately brought up and gave center stage to explosive texts between then-lovers Page and her partner then-FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok.

The transcripts from last year’s interview with Page brought to light revealing new details about the bureau’s controversial internal discussions regarding an “insurance policy” against then-candidate Donald J. Trump.

Page got her name recognized when it was revealed by the Justice Department inspector general that she and Strzok exchanged numerous anti-Trump text messages. Page and Strzok were deeply involved in the FBI’s initial counterintelligence investigation into Russian meddling. They investigated potential collusion with Trump campaign associates during the 2016 election. Later, they both served on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

In the text messages that were shared by Page and Strzok the so-called “insurance policy” was mentioned on numerous occasions.

During her interview with the Judiciary Committee in July 2018, Page was questioned about the texts. Page answered questions for about 10 hours total on July 13 and July 16.

Page ultimately confirmed that the “insurance policy”  referred to the Russia investigation. She explained that officials were proceeding with caution, concerned about the implications of the case while not wanting to go at “total breakneck speed” and risk burning sources as they presumed Trump wouldn’t be elected anyway.

Page also confirmed that investigators only had a “paucity” of evidence at the start.

The full text of the questions can be seen here:

Lisa Page Interview Day 1 by on Scribd

Lisa Page Interview Day 2 by on Scribd

After the questioning began, then-Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., asked about the text sent from Strzok to Page in August 2016.

The text reads, “I want to believe the path you threw out in Andy’s [McCabe’s] office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take the risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

FBI agents had named the investigation into the Trump campaign, “Crossfire Hurricane.”

Page said, “So, upon the opening of the crossfire hurricane investigation, we had a number of discussions up through and including the Director regularly in which we were trying to find an answer to the question, right, which is, is there someone associated with the [Trump] campaign who is working with the Russians in order to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton. And given that it is August, we were very aware of the speed and sensitivity that we needed to operate under.”

Page also said that, “if the answer is this is a guy just being puffery at a meeting with other people, great, then we don’t need to worry about this, and we can all move on with our lives; if this is, in fact, the Russians have coopted an individual with, you know, maybe wittingly or unwittingly, that’s incredibly grave, and we need to know that as quickly as possible.”

If you read the transcripts, you will see that it was never expected that Trump would be the President of the United States. In fact, the D.C. swamp agreed and Page said that all they needed was an allegation, and claimed “it is entirely common, particularly in a counterintelligence investigation, that you would only have—you would have a small amount of evidence” in launching a probe.

The pair worked on the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server and then Page served a short detail on Mueller’s team and then returned to her post at the FBI in 2017.  She then ultimately left the bureau in May 2018.

Strzok was removed from Mueller’s team after the texts were discovered and was reassigned to the FBI’s Human Resources Division. He was fired in August 2018.

Recently, former FBI Deputy Director McCabe, said he did not recall ever discussing the “insurance policy” with Strzok or Page.

I believe that “Andy’s” bubble burst with revelations that Page remembered the situation clearly.

Why Hillary Clinton Was Not Locked Up

by Daveda Gruber:

Whatever happened to locking up Hillary Clinton? We were waiting  patiently to see justice served and that day has not come. The FBI never gave Conservatives reason to feel that the guilty, no matter how far up the political chain, would be punished for the crimes they allegedly committed.

It appears that someone thought there was wrong doing. The FBI’s top lawyer in 2016 under ex-Director James Comey the FBI’s top lawyer thought that Hillary Clinton and her team should have immediately realized that they were mishandling “highly classified” information based on the obviously sensitive nature of the emails’ contents sent through Hillary’s private server.

According to a transcript of his closed-door testimony before congressional committees last October, former FBI general counsel James Baker believed she should have been prosecuted until “pretty late” in the investigation.

Baker said high-level officials at the bureau were “arguing about” whether to bring charges against Clinton. He originally thought that Clinton’s behavior was “alarming” and “appalling.”

Baker said, “So, I had that belief initially after reviewing, you know, a large binder of her emails that had classified information in them. And I discussed it internally with a number of different folks, and eventually became persuaded that charging her was not appropriate because we could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that…we, the government, could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that… she had the intent necessary to violate (the law).”

Baker told lawmakers that it was “the nature and scope of the classified information that, to me, initially, when I looked at it, I thought these folks should know that this stuff is classified, that it was alarming what they were talking about, especially some of the most highly classified stuff.”

Democrats clearly recall then candidate Donald Trump, while on the campaign trail, vowing to prosecute Mrs. Clinton if he won the election.

Brian Fallon, who was Mrs. Clinton’s campaign spokesman, said, “It was alarming enough to chant ‘lock her up’ at a campaign rally. It is another thing entirely to try to weaponize the Justice Department in order to actually carry it out.”

On the other hand, Conservatives said Mrs. Clinton should not be immune from scrutiny as a special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, investigates Russia’s interference in last year’s election and any connections to Mr. Trump’s campaign. They argued, for instance, that Mrs. Clinton was the one doing Russia’s bidding in the form of a uranium deal approved when she was Secretary of State.

A December letter by former House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy and former House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte said the decision not to prosecute Clinton was not unanimous.

Under questioning by Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, Baker spoke extensively about the back and forth arguments.

Here’s part of that discussion:

Ratcliffe: All right. Are you a reasonable prosecutor?

Baker: Not anymore. I’m not a prosecutor anymore. 

Then there is a quick exchange of questions and answers. Ratcliff pivots back to Baker’s decision to change his mind regarding Clinton.

Ratcliffe: You were persuaded, and stated as a basis, that ultimately you were persuaded there was a lack of evidence establishing knowledge or criminal intent, correct?

Baker: Yes.

Ratcliffe: When were you persuaded?

Baker: Sorry. Pretty late in the process, because we were arguing about it, I think, up until the end.

Ratcliffe: Yeah, So Jim Comey had reached the opposite conclusion as early as – or I guess as late as May the 2nd of 2017, as reflected in the memo that he created, correct?

Baker: I know there’s been a lot of public discussion about that – this way I experienced that interaction and other interactions with Jim Comey is he would throw things out like that to get people to start talking and thinking about it and test his conclusions against others and get them to push back. And so, it was – I believe it was in that process that I read these emails and we had these discussions and arguments.

Baker’s testimony was considered credible by those in the room.

In a televised interview on July 3, 2016, Clinton claimed that she had “never received nor sent any material that was marked classified” using her personal email system.

Later on she said she regretted using the setup after it emerged that her private servers contained classified materials from Special Access Programs, or SAP, which are considered some of the most closely held U.S. government secrets.

So, there you have it. Hillary was very close to being held accountable for her alleged negligent behavior. It appears that Comey’s influence stopped the investigation in its tracks.